waarom zo negatief over jonge kindjes en de VS???

  • BG

    Romy,

    Ik denk dat wij inderdaad bijdragen aan een beter image van adoptie, dat heb je goed gezien. Want we maken duidelijk dat er ook kritische adoptieouders en niet alleen consumerende adoptieouders voor wie de eigen kinderwens boven alles gaat. Wanneer je contact opneemt met kritische journalisten en onderzoekers zijn ze inderdaad blij verrast dat er ook veel (en steeds meer) adoptieouders zijn die ook vinden dat het anders moet en zich daar sterk voor willen maken. Een tegenwicht voor de machtige adoptielobby. Wie het gelijk aan zijn kant heeft zal de toekomst uitwijzen. Ik zie het met vertrouwen tegemoet.

  • Anoniem

    BG Schreef:

    ——————————————————-

    > Want we maken duidelijk dat er ook kritische adoptieouders

    > en niet alleen consumerende adoptieouders voor wie

    > de eigen kinderwens boven alles gaat.

    Jeetje, de discussie gaat maar voort :(

    Het is goed dat er kritisch gekeken wordt naar adoptie, het is niet niets!

    Maar uit je pos begrijp ik, dat mochten wij bv toch willen gaan voor de VS (die keuze is overigens nog niet gemaakt, we zijn ons nog volop overal aan het orienteren) dat wij eigenlijk maar een stel egoïsten zijn??? Dat is toch niet aardig?

  • BG

    Dit gaat helemaal niet over wel en niet aardig zijn. Jij bent denk ik een hartstikke aardig mens, ik ben dat ook. Het gaat over iets heel essentieels: een kinderleven en dat van de biologische ouders. En een stevig gevoel bij mij dat er iets niet goed zit met dit soort adopties net zoals dat het geval is met gezonde kinderen uit China. Ik zou zelf als (aspirant) adoptieouder die voor keuzen staat al die informatie opslurpen en blij zijn dat er nu zoveel bekend is over misstanden waar dat 10 jaar geleden niet zo was. Je kunt niet meer naief het adoptieproces in. Je kunt wel je ogen sluiten en het niet willen weten. Maar dan begint je kind er over 10 jaar over. Mijn kind van 10 doet dat. Het kindertehuis waar zij vandaan komt daar is het nodige aan de hand. De manier waarop nu gecommuniceerd wordt en de info die er nu is was er in 1997-1999 toen wij begonnen niet. Adoptie was gewoon goed en al die kinderen wachtten op ouders. Dat denk ik nu niet meer. Er wachten wel kinderen maar helaas niet altijd de kinderen waar ouders op wachten. Deze info heeft iedereen nu. Sinds 2005 zijn we met z'n allen wakker geschut door een aantal publicaties en nieuwsuitzendingen. Gelukkig maar. En misschien schuiven velen een posting als deze terzijde als negatief etc..Dan is hij maar voor de enkeling die dat niet doet.

    Voor mij is dit onderwerp afdoend behandeld, dus geen reacties meer van mijn kant.

  • Anoniem

    Maar denk je niet dat het ‘makkelijker is’ om kritisch te kijken naar adoptie als je zelf al kindjes hebt en die kinderwens dus vervuld is?

  • BG

    Vorig jaar het mooiste 4-jarige jongetje met missende voet en een aantal skeletafwijkingen, geadopteerd. Binnen 2 maanden een voorstel omdat dergelijke minimale handicaps mensen blijkbaar toch nog afschrikken.

    Mijn boodschap is niet adopteer niet, maar adopteer dergelijke prachtige kindjes. Het is inderdaad wel makkelijk praten als je dit zit te typen en dit prachtige jongetje buiten op de trampoline ziet springen;-) Ik ga snel naar hem toe want wij zijn gezegend met de grootste knuffelkont van Gelderland en das toch gezelliger dan voortdurend weer hetzelfde uitleggen (maar misschien wel met gevolg dat meer van dergelijke knuffelkonten ouders vinden en die ouders zich ook in dezelfde gezegende positie zullen bevinden als wij).

  • M

    Anoniem,

    Ik ben zelf nog bezig met de adoptieprocedure, en deel BG haar “kritische” mening toch wel.

    Ik hoop in de toekomst een sn kindje te kunnen adopteren, en heb mezelf ook wel eens afgevraagd wat ik zou doen als de VS mijn enige optie was omdat ik bijv geen toestemming voor sn zou krijgen of niet aan de eisen van andere landen zou voldoen, maar ik denk dat ik dan van adoptie zou afzien, omdat ik het voor mezelf gewoon niet goed kan praten.

  • xyz

    Blijf erin geloven? Ik heb er jaren gewoond mijn man is er geboren en zijn hele familie woont daar nog, ik weet hoe dat land in elkaar steekt.

  • AM

    American Children Are Being Adopted in Foreign Lands

    by Fatherofeight | More from this Blogger

    04 Jan 2007 09:59 AM

    There is a problem in this country. The majority of the families that consider adopting children are Caucasian. The majority of the children that need to be adopted are African American. The number of foreign children that are being adopted by Americans is increasing. African American babies are being sent to foreign countries.

    The United States is sending African American newborns to Canada and Western Europe. The families that receive these children say that their primary motive for taking them is that they wanted a newborn baby, without regard to that baby's race. They say that there is no bias in their country towards African Americans so they do not expect any future problems concerning race.

    The average couple seeking to adopt in this country has very identifiable preferences. They prefer to have as young a child as possible. Next, the preference is for girls over boys. Finally, there is a strong preference for Caucasian children, with African American children being at the other end of this spectrum. Other races and mixed race children are all somewhere in the middle. Skin color is a very important factor.

    I am sixty years old and my wife is fifty-one. We are Caucasian. We have adopted five mixed race boys, four of whom are considered African American. From the very start, we wanted to adopt children of color. It makes us very sad that our boys will have to deal with bias in their lives.

    Why is this happening? Some people want any child that is not African American. Others have been led to seek out a child in a foreign land; maybe they are partial to a distant part of the world. Other people would worry about how their parents, siblings, aunts, and uncles might take the news. Finally, they might worry about trying to span the cultural gap.

    I am not trying to offend anyone. Some of our very closest friends have adopted children from other countries. I am troubled that children born in this country are being sent to foreign lands because there is not a place for them here. What do you think?

  • AM

    June 06, 2005Vol. 63No. 22Why Are American Babies Being Adopted Abroad?By Anne-Marie O'Neill

    A Little-Known Trend—European and Canadian Families Adopting Black Infants from the U.S.—Stirs An Emotional DebateNadine and Christoph Priebe longed for a family. So, after a year of trying for a baby, they decided to adopt. In June 2004 the Priebes contacted Adoption-Link, a private Oak Park, Ill., agency, met with a social worker and were deemed suitable parents. This spring they got a life-changing phone call: A little boy was available. On April 1 the Priebes met the 2-week-old baby boy they named Noel Pascal. “The first time I held him, I thought, ‘You did it. This is your baby,’ ” says Christoph, 27, a fitness club manager. “This is your family.”

    It's the happy ending would-be parents hope for. What makes it different is that the fair-skinned Priebes are from Germany and Noel is African-American. Instead of growing up in the Midwest, he'll adopt his parents' nationality and live in Neu Ulm, (pop. 160,000), a virtually all-white Bavarian town. Nadine, 27, a secretary, plans to join a support group for biracial families and introduce herself to a local African hairdresser to get advice about how to look after Noel's curly hair. “We don't know how to care for it,” she says. “Maybe we can become friends.”

    Americans have long been used to couples in the U.S. adopting children from overseas. But few realize that each year hundreds of children—nearly all African-American or biracial—leave this country to be raised by foreign parents. Although some other wealthy Western nations permit their children to be adopted abroad, in practice it rarely happens. In the U.S., though, looser federal regulations allow even newborns to leave its borders. That may soon change: The federal government is expected to ratify an international treaty that would require adoption agencies to make every effort to place children in their birth countries before allowing them to go abroad. But hoping to get in before “the gates shut,” as one adoption agency director puts it, more and more would-be parents from Europe and Canada are rushing to take home African-American babies. “It's happening without people really noticing,” says Adam Pertman, executive director of the Evan B. Donaldson Adoption Institute, a think tank devoted to adoption issues. “As a country, we should examine if we're doing everything we can to find homes for these children here.”

    At the very least, the tiny exodus raises provocative questions in a nation used to seeing itself as a haven for international adoptees. “Americans adopt children from other countries because of war, famine or because they are boarded in orphanages,” says Toni Oliver, CEO of Roots Adoption Agency in Atlanta, which places black children with African-American families. “Why would we be exporting our kids?”

    The answers lie partly in this country's tortured racial politics. Among many blacks and whites, a powerful stigma against interracial adoption remains. And while more African-American children are getting adopted, they remain difficult to place. “The adoption hierarchy reflects our society,” says Margaret Fleming, the director of Adoption-Link, which has sent 74 black and biracial kids abroad. “At the top are blond, blue-eyed girls. At the bottom are black boys.” At adoption conferences, Fleming says, “white families look at our babies, smile, then make a beeline for the agency that places Russian, Chinese or Guatemalan children.” In contrast, would-be parents from Canada and Europe—where racial baggage is different and adoption can be more difficult than in the United States—are often eager to parent black children.

    The Priebes of Germany would have faced a long wait to adopt in their own country, where a low birthrate and generous government support for single mothers leave few children wanting for homes. “We didn't care about the color of skin,” says Christoph. “We just wanted a child from a first-world country because of its health-care system.” The couple have few illusions about what lies ahead. “Noel is a baby now, and everyone will say, ‘Oh, he is so cute,’ ” says Christoph. “But when he goes to school, I can see somebody saying, ‘Hey, why do you have black skin?’ ” Nadine believes they're ready for it: “If we give him a good home and are good parents, he'll know he can come to us,” she says. “We can handle it.”

    Still, Oliver, who calls international adoption “covert racism,” and some others in the black community say the emphasis should be in finding children good homes here, not shipping them out of the country. “There are African-American families interested and willing to adopt,” she says. "But they are ignored. Agencies look for families that can pay their fees."

    Not so, says Adoption-Link's Fleming. “We fall over ourselves for black parents,” she says. While it's true that adopting an African-American child is less expensive for foreign couples—typically half or less than the cost of adopting babies from Russia or China—the ultimate power in U.S. adoptions lies with birth mothers, who usually decide who will raise their children. At the agencies handling international placements, those mothers frequently choose foreign couples. “Other countries maybe presented to them as more tolerant,” says Tara Gutterman, executive director of Philadelphia's Adoption Arc. “Or they may feel, ‘Hey, anyplace is better than here.’ ”

    Sometimes it's even simpler than that. “I liked them,” says a 44-year-old Chicago teacher who considered 20 couples, some of them black, before choosing Glenn and Laura Perrin from Penticton, B.C., to raise her daughter Macy, now 4. “Being Canadian was never a factor.” The Perrins also have two other African-American children—Hannah, 6, and Charlie, 17 months, and say they never hear racist comments about their family. “The only time was in Chicago,” says Laura, 38, who works part-time as an accountant for Glenn's orthodontics practice. “This Caucasian man walked by and said, ‘You should stick to your own kind.’ ”

    To keep their children connected to their roots, the Perrins decorate their house with African art and seek out African-American role models in popular culture. They also keep in touch with two of the three birth mothers (one has not been responsive). “Hannah just discovered that she's different,” says Laura. “She said, ‘Hey, my skin’s a different color.' But not ‘why?’ She knows why. We tell them about their background.”

    For many birth moms, the willingness to maintain such links is key. Sonya Norsworthy was 21 years old, single and preparing for college in Houston when she decided to offer the baby she was carrying for adoption. “Black families were the first ones I looked at because the agency gave me those books first,” says Norsworthy, 33. “But I didn't feel a connection.” Then they suggested Brenda and Gary Birch, a white couple from Vancouver. “Brenda was a communications major, like me. Gary is a quadriplegic and sensitive to discrimination,” she says. Eleven years later she and daughter Lillian visit and even vacation with her birth child Isaac and the Birches.

    The Priebes of Germany haven't yet contacted Noel's birth parents. “We are too afraid,” Christoph admits. Over the next six months, they'll meet with a social worker and send several letters with photos to Adoption-Link to show how Noel is adjusting. If all goes well, the adoption will be finalized in October. They are already saving up the $15,000 needed to adopt again. “When I look into my wife's happy face,” he says, “I know that Noel isn't the last baby.”

    Anne-Marie O'Neill. Joanne Fowler in New York City and Ron Arias in Penticton

  • marian

    anoniem kan ik jou even persoonlijk mailen?

    groetjes